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Having information or the other way around - twitter have already serve it's purpose.
Getting listed on your twitter list is a perk.
Following you guys on twitter .... I guess it's priceless. ;P
I agree and I do see the value in the lists. I'm not getting my panties all twisted because I don't make it onto anyone's particular list. I know that for me, I need time to consider and organize my lists. This is a new app and it will take folks a while to get their lists together. Even so, I'm happy to tweet away and I'll get my lists done at some point. One of them will be: "My favorite bloggers named Jan"
George
Anyone who doesn't make any of the lists is likely to be someone with tweets worth reading, or someone I followed in the early days before I had defined how I planned to use Twitter.
"Mom, I'm you're ONLY son."
Would I even NOTICE if I'm not on someone's list? Probably not. I barely have time to notice whether I'm on my own, most days.
Of course, it does make you feel good to be included on 'the list' and it feels bad not be left out. But that is life.
It's the list maker's prerogative, so to speak
It's just me. I take everything personally. :)
Nobody is allowed to hex anybody on this. There's definitely needless to put EVERYONE in the list or else what's the point of Twitter Lists (good point on this, by the way). Frankly, I'm not satisfied with mine yet, because the contacts are added up everyday and I don't think the list will ever be 100% complete. Some people I hold them in the private list until I know them better. So no judgment shall be made on this, on anybody.
@wchingya
Social/Blogging Tracker
At the end of the day, it's just a list. A starting point, a tool. A tweeter with a good head sitting on his shoulder - knows how to engage in Twitter, posts valuable stuff, being helpful and all that - reaps the fruits of his labor in the end even if at this point he only figures in his dog's list of great guys.
1. The act of not following someone on Twitter is itself exclusionary. The act of joining Twitter is exclusionary, as it excludes all the people not on Twitter.
2. As for pigeonholing, keep in mind you can put the same person on any number of lists you create.
But you're right, we need some fun lists.
I am appreciative of being included, occasionaly, even flattered, but havent the inclincation to care/worry about the exclusion factor by others.
So JG, if you notice you appear on one less list, have no fear, I still will strive to see what you have to say :-)
I don't look at my lists every time although of course every time I interact with a tweeter I secretly figure out on what list the user can be added to. Have you already maxed the number of people per list? If you have, why not make a new category for the people you need to keep under your bed at all times? LOL
Just great that you suggest yet more apps and such for me. Sure I've seen all you greats using such processes - oddly enough, I seem to like just jumping in the stream where I am at any given moment. Once I had made some lists, I had the dilemna over what to do with new followers - of course there's a way to handle that, but for me it's just one more thing to juggle... and conflicts with keeping my life simple. What!?? someone may scream - nothing simpler than using the tools - to which I respond - use what works best for each of us.
Should I change my mind, I will follow your advise JG, as that works for me too :-)
You're a generous twitter. Kudos to you!
By sharing your lists, people will have access to all your favorite people. I think that's great.
Can I sit down now and have a milkshake first? Your blog makes me feel so comfortable and I always come here to "talk" with genuine friends.
Okay, okay, I'm off topic, but am I? Ang gulo ko...he he he..(I'm in the downside again. "getting older", as the man from the sci-fi world said).
I don't have complicated reasons for people I include/d in my list. I include/d them because they're my friends.
A "Friend" though has several meanings for me: someone who reads my posts and gives honest and sincere feedbacks . (Now, don't post that negative comment, email me....lol) someone who drops by and says ,' hey , what's up? ', someone who could interact with me effectively (can be serious when the occasion calls for it, and can be a clown too, when needed), someone who says: " I need this, could you help me, if you can't, then get out of my sight."
But after all that is said and done - someone who is still there - no matter.
Did I describe you?
I wouldn't mind though if I was not in a particular list, perhaps there are certain criteria that I wasn't able to fulfill. This does not make me a lesser person. For sure I'll be in other people's list, anyhow.
Have a blessed weekend. I was beginning to worry....how is the challenge going?
Jen
So it's not all about creating lists to listen in on what your friends are doing, although there's value in that, too. You don't want to be left out of the conversation, right?
Yeah, I'm saying you can make Twitter lists work for your blog. You just have to be creative about using it. Thanks, Rygel. :)
I'm not that active much on Twitter, so maybe I'm really not affected much. And I agree with you, tweeple who would be offended not making it on your list might need a session or two with a therapist :D
For me it makes me feel good to be listed on anybody's list, there is a sense of belonging and somehow it makes me feel that what I do or say in the twittersphere matter to people, it kinda gives me a voice (singing voice LOL). Just like the birds that twitter seemed to have taken its platform from. There are tweets of birds that sing a particular song in a particular season, we are those birds in this "whatchamacallit" world of the wide web. Thus, our voice belongs somewhere.
I wont fret or break a (vocal) cord if ever I wasn't included YET in anyone's list, sooner or later, there would be someone who would hear what I am saying and make sense of it, enough to recruit my tweeting voice in their list. A matter of time... so for those who are not included yet, be patient. There are people who are keeping themselves too busy to even make a decent list (like me).
Z
What I do feel bad about is slacking and leaving my own lists incomplete - I really should have kept them private until I was done. I'm hoping that my friends realize that they are a work in progress and don't feel hurt or overlooked.
Seriously, I'm picking up what you're laying down. But you can't discount what Chris Brogan is saying altogether. I've witnessed first hand how the big guns constantly get harassed by people not included on their lists. Whining comes to mind. It always shocks me that somebody's pride would allow them to say, "ProBlogger, I feel I deserved to be on your list. I can't believe Jack Sprat is up there but not me. You're a hack and I'm not following you anymore."
Are they asking for this by creating lists in the first place? Yes and no. Listing is a wonderful way to organize. Sometimes I want to tweet with my silly peeps. Sometimes my Nano peeps. Sometimes SEO, or my Power 50. Lists have made Twitter tolerable again. But it's hard for me to think of everybody I'd like to include on my list, and specifically their Twitter addresses, when compiling them. And then there are all those understated but very important friends who do not always come to the forefront of our minds. They are not the squeaky wheels & it is probably they who will have the opportunity to have their feelings hurt due to unintentional sleights, but will be more likely to forgive us and be understanding.
now i don't even remember when i last opened my twitter account.
and yep, i don't mind whether i'm in somebody's list or not. :D
I'm not thrilled with this filter system since the beauty of Twitter is the simplicity. On the other hand, Twitter had to do something since it has become quite a shout-fest with people having so many "followers".
If I were a twitter guy, then there was a reason why I have/had the twitter account because I am/was part of the ongoing project that I should be updated regularly.
After the project, they could exclude me... no problem.
To keep this short and sweet: YOU ROCK!
Thanks for hosting your blog - I'm really glad I found you (via your comment at my blog).
Two thumbs up!
~xo
It's ironic you should mention the Twitter lists as I've just start noticing them and figured out I was on some.
I can see how some could get upset if they don't make "the list" and I certainly wouldn't want to hurt someone's feelings, so maybe it would be best if I don't even start one. Just thinking....
But seriously, I haven't made any yet simply because I haven't really paid much attention to it. No, I'm not "hurt" if I see a list that I am not on. Lol. I do not go around checking my friends' profiles to see their lists then interrogate them why I'm not on there. Lol. That's way creepy. :p
I really love you view on this. I understand what Chris Brogan is getting at, but at the end of the day, you can make everyone happy. If you're constantly worried about other people's feelings, you'll end up paralyzed and nonfunctional.
If you're not on as many lists as you want to be, be more interactive. The more you chat with people, the more likely they are to include you in their list. Provide value and people will follow you.
Oh, and I have to admit I was a bit thrilled to see I made Heather's list [a few times] ~ I know, I need therapy. lol
Blogging is cool. Dig that. Twitter? Nah..
:D
gumawa nun.